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Bonding Workshop Monday 4/25 7pm 1 year ago #2359

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CIP, HBOS, and HBOF gathering at Douglas libray to discuss role of bonding in Hebron. The best way to educate ourselves about community needs and how to address them is by listening first hand!

Re:Bonding Workshop Monday 4/25 7pm 1 year ago #2363

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Missed meeting ... sent what would have been my public statement to all involved (this morning). I sent the email to the BOS, BOF, Town manager and the Finance Director. Encourage all of you to do the same Contacting them with emails or with phone calls will suggest you are interested in the topic and have an opinion worth sharing whether it is pro or con. You can also use the generic address of This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it

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Re:Bonding Workshop Monday 4/25 7pm 1 year ago #2366

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Do residents really know WHAT is meant by "open bonding". Usually voters vote on a bond issue for a new building or new school - in that scenario there is (at least an approximate) figure listed for the final cost. The idea in town to bond to "catch-up" on projects that have been delayed, not fully funded or neglected for lack of a better term should be questioned.

If approved, does this set a precedence for future bonding - does success in getting this bond passed, open up a flood gate for more requests? Who prioritizes the projects, who controls the funds, will there be a paper trail or will it be "dumped" into the general fund once the dollars are received AND will the "accountants" consider this revenue since it is money coming into town ... or is it considered additional town "debt"?
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Re:Bonding Workshop Monday 4/25 7pm 1 year ago #2367

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Mombert wrote:
Do residents really know WHAT is meant by "open bonding". Usually voters vote on a bond issue for a new building or new school - in that scenario there is (at least an approximate) figure listed for the final cost. The idea in town to bond to "catch-up" on projects that have been delayed, not fully funded or neglected for lack of a better term should be questioned.

If approved, does this set a precedence for future bonding - does success in getting this bond passed, open up a flood gate for more requests? Who prioritizes the projects, who controls the funds, will there be a paper trail or will it be "dumped" into the general fund once the dollars are received AND will the "accountants" consider this revenue since it is money coming into town ... or is it considered additional town "debt"?


I'd have to say that most residents either don't know or more likely don't care about this issue. Most residents don't pay all that much attention to what goes on in town if it isn't about our annual education budget battles.

Anyone else, that is, those who have paid any attention to the CIP budget requests over the past several years, will have some understanding of this issue. The fact is, very little of what is asked for gets through the CIP, and as a result, we've been pennywise but pound foolish.

The open bonding approach will make it easier to climb out of the hole that we've dug ourselves into, but more importantly, the idea is to set up a better structure so that we don't repeat the mistakes we've made in the past.

The easy example to understand is the reassessment. If I am not mistaken, next year we will have another reval year - yet we really haven't set aside anything for it. We know the expense of the reval is coming every 4 years, so we should set aside 1/4 of the total funds needed for it every year, so when the expense comes, we are prepared for it. Without it, we have to spike the tax rate to cover it.

We have to maintain our public works and public safety vehicle fleet, but the vehicles only last so long. Trucks rust out over time, and roads wear out as well. Especially so when we don't fund public works enough to provide sufficient preventive maintenance. We spend more money on emergency repairs instead of addressing the real problems - we were sometimes too cheap to begin with, and then we get what we paid for.

To those who think I'm complaining that we can't eat steak on a ground beef budget, I'm not suggesting that. I'm saying we should have thought about burgers vs. meatloaf - burgers don't take long to prepare, but if we'd spent the time making meatloaf, we could've streched the meat by adding bread crumbs, and made twice as many meals. And meatloaf is yummy, but we can't have it if the beef is all gone, or worse, spoiled because while we put it in the fridge, we didn't put some in the freezer.

Re:Bonding Workshop Monday 4/25 7pm 1 year ago #2369

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To those who think I'm complaining that we can't eat steak on a ground beef budget, I'm not suggesting that. I'm saying we should have thought about burgers vs. meatloaf - burgers don't take long to prepare, but if we'd spent the time making meatloaf, we could've streched the meat by adding bread crumbs, and made twice as many meals. And meatloaf is yummy, but we can't have it if the beef is all gone, or worse, spoiled because while we put it in the fridge, we didn't put some in the freezer.


Makes sense. Loreta is either A. Getting a Kick back or B. is retarded.

either option is not a viable reason for voting yes or more to the point considering this insanity. Please leave town we don't want you here.

Re:Bonding Workshop Monday 4/25 7pm 1 year ago #2371

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So aren't we basically talking about opening up a line of credit to pay for things that we should have been setting aside money for all along? Instead of, say, funding the new multi-million-dollar recreation park? And to pay for this and other things, we are going to raise revenue by increasing taxes and fees, such as the transfer station fee. No big deal, right? If you use the transfer station you pay for the "privledge." Well, for someone who cannot meet their expenses right now, and who is looking at increased property taxes, increased gas costs, increased heating oil costs, and increased pretty much everything else, it IS a big deal. It's a big deal when you haven't seen an increase in over 4 years and you weren't making enough to begin with. I go to the transfer station to save money, so I don't have to pay to have pickup. Now they're talking about making me pay for that. I give up.
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