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2011-2012 HBOE budget discussion 1 year, 5 months ago #2174

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I still feel issues are totally manipulated by the school administration. Everyone but 'the administrators' noticed the flaw in the survey (a tool they reference as a source for their budget layout): anyone could have responded more than once, there was no control restricting responses to our specific community etc. ONLY last years "approved" budget can be found on the schools website along with a power point presentation. I, for one, do not appreciate power point presentations when it impacts on my pocket. List the budget and let the public view the line items. The "use of student interns" has been mentioned in the past .. I thought this was already a cost-saver that was implemented in our town system. We need to make sure student interns will be used.

The no increase "budget" (which will be the budget I support) again impacts on students: library books, curriculum supplies, less staff in the classroom. Someone needs to take a look at office expenses and transportation numbers. When the schools were divided by town sections rather than classes routes, time on the bus etc were shorter. Too many buses are less than half full, parents block traffic before/after school trying to protect their children from long rides and bullying on the buses, why not stop the policy of pick up at every driveway and revert back to pick-up at specific locations. For each stop, "the wait, load, wait until the child is seated ..." wastes valuable fuel. Being green uses LESS fuel too! The message from the taxpayers should be: " ...we support public education but use our dollar efficiently"

I located one CT school budget that is an excellent example of "how" clarity can be achieved through a budget format - I am sure there are others. In the past, I have shared this example with Hebron's BOS and BOE and possible on this board. When line items are not clearly defined to the public, there is a perception of "fuzzy" math or confusion -- the budget, itself, must be set up to be self-explanatory. Anything that impacts on the budget is EXPLAINED and easily found. These following pages are excellent examples of the details found within this format: pages 11-16, pages 17-19, page 40. Last year, the last column on the HBOE budget given to the public was not filled in. Anyone interested in the percent increase or decrease had to fill in that column by hand. Any effort to have some of this detail in our HBOE budget would be applauded. I encourage all of you to read through some of these budget pages. Here is the link to the document: CLICK HERE TO VIEW A WONDERFUL BUDGET FORMAT

Start writing letters to the paper, contact BOE members, ask the difficult questions, demand answers ... if they cannot identify areas to cut, help them out. After all, our tax dollar is involved. Grants are not to be considered free money ... they too are based on citizens tax dollars and not pluck off a money tree. Any pre/post school program that is not self-supporting needs to be eliminated.

We are back to the same scenario as last year. The municipal side of our budget and the CIP are going to suffer again! We all know schools in town are performing well, we all know we have a "blue" ribbon award and the fact that we also have a supportive community base of concerned parents and citizens who value education. The main question for the current year -- how will the final approved HBOE budget impact on our thin wallets?!?!?
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Re:2011-2012 HBOE budget discussion 1 year, 4 months ago #2175

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I never thought I'd see Hebron's Bd of Ed actually win anything in binding arbitration. From hebron.htnp.com/2010/12/21/arbitrators-r...hebron-teacher-pact/



Hebron Board of Education and Hebron teachers have agreed to accept a binding arbitration ruling on a collective bargaining agreement.

The two parties were unable to reach an agreement on contract issues and the matter went to arbitration, with an initial hearing held this past October.

The arbitration award was issued in November.

Some of the issues the two sides were at odds over included salary increases, the amount of insurance co-payments and extra hours out­side of the school day.

During negotiations, the board of education proposed a salary freeze during the 2011-12 school year, while the teacher’s union proposed no step advancements but a 1 percent increase.

The arbitration panel decided in favor of the board’s proposal, stating “the board of education in
Hebron faces significant financial pressures and uncertainties for the 2011-12 school year.”

During negotiations, the board of education had offered co-pay­ments of $25 for doctor’s office visits beginning July 2011 and $30 for office visits beginning July 2012, with no co-payment for preventive care visits.

The teacher’s union offered $20 for office visits for July 2011 and July 2012, with a co-payment of $25 for office visits beginning in July 2013, with no co-payment for preventive care visits.

The arbitration settled the ques­tion in favor of the teachers, with the arbitration panel saying “most teacher bargaining units are pay­ing $20 for office visits at this time.”

The panel also noted the sal­ary freeze in the first year of the contract had enough of a negative impact on the “welfare and ben­efit” of the employees.

The board of education had also offered co-payments of $100 for emergency room visits, while the union had proposed co-payments of $75.

Both of the proposals were increases from the current co-pay­ments of $50. The arbitration panel agreed with the union, saying it was too big of an impact on an employee to have their payments doubled.

The school board also offered co-payments of $200 for outpa­tient surgery, while the teacher’s association had offered co- pay­ments of $100. The arbitration panel settled this question in favor of the board of education, saying “as a gen­eral rule, employees will not be required to pay the outpatient sur­gery copayment frequently.”

For hospitalization co-payments, the board had offered $350, while the union offered $250; again the arbitration panel decided in favor of the board, saying the savings in premiums totaling $3,000 were “sorely needed” by the school board.

The board of education also offered to change the prescription drug rider to a managed public sector three-tier rider, while the education association proposed the prescription drug rider be the public sector formulary plan - the plan under the terms in the current contract.

The board’s proposal would save the school district approximately $70,000 in premiums annually.

The main difference in the plan is generic prescriptions are writ­ten for patients instead of brand names, but if a physician feels a brand name drug is more effec­tive, then there is no stipulation the patient has to stay on the generic drug.

The arbitration panel agreed with the board of education’s offer on this issue.

During the contract negotiations, the board of education proposed that teachers be available both before and after school - up to one hour per week - for faculty meetings, team meetings, profes­sional development sessions and other similar activities.

The teacher’s association pro­posed that, in addition to the regu­larly scheduled monthly faculty meeting, which was the additional time required of them under the terms of the current contract, teachers would be available before and after school up to one hour per month.

The arbitration panel decided in favor of the teacher’s union, saying the board’s proposal was too much in a time of “severe economic restraint.”

Hebron School Superintendent Eleanor Cruz said the duties of the teachers exceed the limits of the hours school is in session.

“A typical school day is not enough” to get everything done, Cruz said, noting that, for that reason, teachers had agreed to double their time available before and after school each month from the one hour to two.

Cruz also said change in the prescription drug plan was really a “win-win” for both taxpayers and teachers, with the huge $70,000 anticipated in premium payments while “virtually no change” in ser­vice would be noticed by staff.

Requests for comment on the arbitration to the board of educa­tion were not returned, but Cruz said the two sides were both to be commended for their hard work during the negotiating process.

“I want to compliment both par­ties,” she said.

Posted 12-21-2010

Re:2011-2012 HBOE budget discussion 1 year, 4 months ago #2176

All Good Fine & Dandy

BUT

The Unions & TheTown Elected peeps Are Only Looking Out For Their Own sorry POLITCAL SIXES, Not The Peeps Dat Pay Da bills

If Day Don't Give A Hoot About Us

Why should wee trust ANYTHING That Comes Outta The Mouths Of Babes

Ellie, Allben Are Just like Used Car salesman Might You Say

Can you Trust ANYTHING they Say

DOUBTFUL 2 SAY THE LEAST
I DRINK TO MAKE POLITICIANS INTERESTING
Some Of My Posts Can Be Interpreted As Either Humorous Or Insulting, When Not Sure Assume Humorous
REA & HEA SUCK!
ZIPPY MUSS TO ALL THE HATERS
ZERO BASED BUDGETING NOW!
BIFURCATION NOW!
Last Edit: 1 year, 4 months ago by NO POLITICS. Reason: Dump AVP AMY & VONDA

Re:2011-2012 HBOE budget discussion 1 year, 4 months ago #2177

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"Comprehension is still an issue with some members ...." --- why not start a separate discussion for "binding arbitration"? For days, this discussion had no replies ... it needed none. It really directed readers to a great BUDGET format. Then out of the blue ... a member threw in binding arbitration statements. LOL from here ...

NP replied well:
All Good Fine & Dandy BUT ...
This was about budget formats and the way things are "manipulated" by the current administration. They could not even understand how worthless their survey was since there could be multiple votes, folks from outside Hebron could have responded and probably did and no controls were place for input. Yet, those putting the education budget together are under the impression the survey is reflecting the thoughts and views of the community in HEBRON.... Ridiculous!!
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Re:2011-2012 HBOE budget discussion 1 year, 4 months ago #2178

Thanks For the flowers Marie

Like Eye said Before

I Voted 3 times On this Bogus survey That they Is making Their Bible outta

Early, OFTEN & TOMBSTONE

It's The Hebron Way!!

If these SIX Hats/Six Clowns, Ellie, Allaben & the Hboe Can't figure Out How To Make a simple poll secure & Legit.

How Can U Trust Them To Run ANYTHING LEGITIMATLY

As To what "Six" Means For The Curious

Ask a Navy Seal What "Six" Means
I DRINK TO MAKE POLITICIANS INTERESTING
Some Of My Posts Can Be Interpreted As Either Humorous Or Insulting, When Not Sure Assume Humorous
REA & HEA SUCK!
ZIPPY MUSS TO ALL THE HATERS
ZERO BASED BUDGETING NOW!
BIFURCATION NOW!

Re:2011-2012 HBOE budget discussion 1 year, 4 months ago #2179

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My projects are finished ... cannot believe today was the first time I looked at the budget link on the school website. WHERE IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET?!?!?

The link states "Hebron Public Schools 2011-2012 Proposed Budget Posted 12/10/2010 03:19PM"-- but it is ONLY THE CUTE POWER POINT PRESENTATION (which buries detail). We should be able to view the object codes and line items with the percent increase-decrease columnn on the far right side filled in.

After last year, one area of interest is definitely OFFICE EXPENSES. Believe someone, from the community, calculated the total to run the super's office and it was pricey. Yes, unlike Charlie Brown's world -- we do need some adults on the scene (like Teachers) -- but does this small school community need so many secretaries and assistants to assistants? Hope the bulk of my tax dollar is paying for educators and not office workers.

Yes, there are items they have no control over: salaries, fuel, lights, maintenance, state mandated issues ..... BUTthey can certainly cross train individuals for office tasks, stop sending out email notifications while "stuffing" backpacks with the same information (waste of paper and time!!), investigate phone bills (they can invest in "Magic Jack" and have service for $20/yr. MAYBE they could re-assign the power point developer to a position that is more productive. Seriously, this individual has to spend HOURS on these These presentations -- in my opinion, are "all fluff and no substance"!

Maybe our BOE members would be bored with "real" numbers, i.e., honest straight forward information where a dollar is still a dollar and "colors, charts, font sizes, borders and the school logo etc" are NOT USED to confuse an issue. HOW SAD!!

Hope they post a REAL budget outline soon.. and if someone has that link, post it here.
Thanks....
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